Remember That WWIII Prophecy Of Fr. Gruner & Fr. Kramer?

The following was published 18 FEBRUARY 2010:

Request For Father Nicholas Gruner & Father Paul Kramer: Tell Us Who Is Your German Priest/Mystic That Prophesied World War III To Start In 2008?

But I chastise my body, and bring it into subjection: lest perhaps, when I have preached to others, I myself should become a castaway. St. Paul

From the Fatima Crusader 82 Page 11 Spring 2006:

The Fatima Crusader Interviews Father Paul Kramer

Father Kramer: 'Well, here we go beyond the firm evidence of approved apparitions and into the realm of speculation. Based on the reported prophecies of a German priest, a mystic, whose veracity is attested to by another German priest I regard as utterly trustworthy, we can surmise that the year 2008 will see the outbreak of war and 2011 the Consecration of Russia and the beginning of the period of peace spoken of by Our Lady of Fatima. The period of chastisement may continue past 2011, but by 2013 the chastisement will have ended and this may be the actual year of the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart'

Upcoming May 2010 conference to be held in Rome: Fatima Challenge

Speakers at the symposium include Father Nicholas Gruner, Father Paul Kramer, Christopher Ferrara, Edwin Faust, Dr. Peter Chojnowski, Michal Semin, Cornelia Ferreira and John Vennari. Other participants will be announced at a later date.

Fatima Challenge conference claims that:

WE will present true Catholic theology on prophecy


The problem is — we have some intellectuals who really do not know the facts of Fatima and do not know profoundly enough, the theology about prophecy.

There are credibility issues with the above statement. If the organizers of this conference are going to teach others on true Catholic theology on prophecy then I think it is best to come clean on the failed World War III prophecy that these organizers have been promoting since 2004 or so and admit that the WWIII prophecy was false and the prophet was not a prophet.

Father Nicholas Gruner & Father Paul Kramer please tell us who is false and lying prophet?

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  1. I think these two clowns will go down in history as the Hal Lindsey and Harold Camping of Catholicism.

    1. Still hope for Fr. Kramer if he reveals his source of the false prophecy.

      If this German priest mystic is Fr. Dollinger then the game is up!

      Not only did Fr. Dollinger spread the lie about a coming WWIII in 2008 but he spread the lie of what is contained in the third secret - bad mass bad council.

      And because Hickson and Skojec spread Fr. Dollinger's lie about the third secret all over the internet - Pope Benedict had to release a public statement - which none in the Rad Trad community believed anyway.

      So if Fr Gruner & Fr. Kramer would have come clean during the 2010 Rome conference and outed Fr. Dollinger as a fraud then Hickson and Skojec would never have used Dollinger as a source and Pope Benedict would never had to issue a public statement.

      God help everyone involved in this (including me) if Fr. Dollinger is the false prophet.

    2. I fully appreciate your concerns, but the situation may not be as dire as it seems. It all hinges on (a) who the two German priests are, and (b) if Gruner and Kraemer are accurately representing what they said, or providing their own interpretations.

      As for Skojec, I doubt he gives a flying cr@p about any other visions - he just wants a club, any club, with which to beat the Church and increase the click count on his site. =)

    3. Yes the Sin of Avarice used to be about wanting more and more tangible riches. Now Avarice is all about wanting more and more blog hits! LOL!

    4. Dire for Fr. Dollinger because he just died


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